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		<title>Comment on Three Great Drills That Build Self-Defense by Josh Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice! Thanks for your reply!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Three Great Drills That Build Self-Defense by Steven Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Records beg for inaccurate assessments of martial arts. The records of Mike Patterson training internal artists to fight in tournaments is astounding! But the footage of the skill level of the practitioners is not the same kind of quality. (YourTube will provide the footage, I won't offer links here.)

So in answer to &lt;em&gt;competitive fighting records?&lt;/em&gt;: me.

Though my shallow records predate my exposure to the WTBA, my early Shotokan Karate years sparkle with silly trophies. Silly because they were based on external judgment: POINT - WINNER! You've seen Karate Kid. Others people's fight records impress me no more than mine.

I'm continually surprised that these pushing practices are missing in other Taiji schools. I imagine, if others do practice it, it's guarded well: because it works. I sunk into Erle Montaigue's Taiji because it resonates deeply with a dark, existential truth - we are all equally capable of self-defense. Because fajing lurks in your nervous and &lt;a href="http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s07/p0000.html" title="Tension-Integrity Defined!" rel="nofollow"&gt;tensegrity systems&lt;/a&gt;, these pushing hands methods help weave that inherent nature. While not so attached to getting &lt;a href="http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html" title="Do a search for meaning." rel="nofollow"&gt;rooted&lt;/a&gt;, we develop fast stepping and ruthless, sturdy stillness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Records beg for inaccurate assessments of martial arts. The records of Mike Patterson training internal artists to fight in tournaments is astounding! But the footage of the skill level of the practitioners is not the same kind of quality. (YourTube will provide the footage, I won&#8217;t offer links here.)</p>
<p>So in answer to <em>competitive fighting records?</em>: me.</p>
<p>Though my shallow records predate my exposure to the WTBA, my early Shotokan Karate years sparkle with silly trophies. Silly because they were based on external judgment: POINT - WINNER! You&#8217;ve seen Karate Kid. Others people&#8217;s fight records impress me no more than mine.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m continually surprised that these pushing practices are missing in other Taiji schools. I imagine, if others do practice it, it&#8217;s guarded well: because it works. I sunk into Erle Montaigue&#8217;s Taiji because it resonates deeply with a dark, existential truth - we are all equally capable of self-defense. Because fajing lurks in your nervous and <a href="http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s07/p0000.html" title="Tension-Integrity Defined!" rel="nofollow">tensegrity systems</a>, these pushing hands methods help weave that inherent nature. While not so attached to getting <a href="http://www.koalanet.com.au/australian-slang.html" title="Do a search for meaning." rel="nofollow">rooted</a>, we develop fast stepping and ruthless, sturdy stillness.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5 Embarrassing Misconceptions About Tai Chi by Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points. I don't mean to blame shift; I want responsibility. So I expose my disdain and embarrassment. I tell the truth (that Tai Chi Chuan must be martial first) to clear up overt misunderstandings.

I found Taiji martial, right away; quite by luck and circumstance, I was able to start working with Erle Montaigue in 1993. He had power and fluidity I had not seen in years of martial training. I championed at my karate school for years and enjoyed the movement of the Masters, but this was different.

Through and after massage/bodywork training, I sought after Tai Chi people to train with, and every one lacked Tai Chi Chuan. Sure they could move slow, some were graceful too, but come-on - that's not all there is to Tai Chi! Some use the excuse that they do &lt;em&gt;Tai Chi&lt;/em&gt; not &lt;em&gt;Tai Chi Chuan&lt;/em&gt;. That's like making soup without a pot. You can do it I suppose, but it's ridiculous.

The more closely I examine violence, the more &lt;a href="http://realtaiji.com/real-supreme-ultimate-martial-healing-art/3" title="Real Supreme Ultimate Martial-Healing Art" rel="nofollow"&gt;I can offer kindness and compassion&lt;/a&gt; to the surliest of folk. And more examining turns the warrior spirit inside-out: one must act ruthless to heal and, deep-down, be kind, compassionate, and caring enough to fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points. I don&#8217;t mean to blame shift; I want responsibility. So I expose my disdain and embarrassment. I tell the truth (that Tai Chi Chuan must be martial first) to clear up overt misunderstandings.</p>
<p>I found Taiji martial, right away; quite by luck and circumstance, I was able to start working with Erle Montaigue in 1993. He had power and fluidity I had not seen in years of martial training. I championed at my karate school for years and enjoyed the movement of the Masters, but this was different.</p>
<p>Through and after massage/bodywork training, I sought after Tai Chi people to train with, and every one lacked Tai Chi Chuan. Sure they could move slow, some were graceful too, but come-on - that&#8217;s not all there is to Tai Chi! Some use the excuse that they do <em>Tai Chi</em> not <em>Tai Chi Chuan</em>. That&#8217;s like making soup without a pot. You can do it I suppose, but it&#8217;s ridiculous.</p>
<p>The more closely I examine violence, the more <a href="http://realtaiji.com/real-supreme-ultimate-martial-healing-art/3" title="Real Supreme Ultimate Martial-Healing Art" rel="nofollow">I can offer kindness and compassion</a> to the surliest of folk. And more examining turns the warrior spirit inside-out: one must act ruthless to heal and, deep-down, be kind, compassionate, and caring enough to fight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Yang Chen Fu Form Part 1 by Anthony VanWagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony VanWagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the no-nonsense way Master Montaigue teaches. Thanks for pointing this out.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Three Great Drills That Build Self-Defense by Josh Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I done some push hand with mike in the WTBA single push hands style. It is an interesting drill, very unique to the WTBA. I assumed Earl invented it since its not like the push hands of Chen, Wu, WuHao, Sun, Michuan, or Yang style taiji. In the Yang style I was taught the push hands comes directly from the form and uses the graps sparrows tail sequence as its basis. There were 3 stages before the diagonal stepping sequence, being single, double and double moving back and forth, then diagonal stepping, then da-lu, then freestyle. Our Da-lu is pretty close to yours but it has a few different moves in the sequence, like using sink energy to neutralize the shoulder blow. The WTBA system has such novel methods of teaching taiji it is quite interesting. 

Is there someone in the WTBA whose competitive fighting record we can use as an example of the effectiveness of the system? Like CC Chen or Zhang Qin lin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I done some push hand with mike in the WTBA single push hands style. It is an interesting drill, very unique to the WTBA. I assumed Earl invented it since its not like the push hands of Chen, Wu, WuHao, Sun, Michuan, or Yang style taiji. In the Yang style I was taught the push hands comes directly from the form and uses the graps sparrows tail sequence as its basis. There were 3 stages before the diagonal stepping sequence, being single, double and double moving back and forth, then diagonal stepping, then da-lu, then freestyle. Our Da-lu is pretty close to yours but it has a few different moves in the sequence, like using sink energy to neutralize the shoulder blow. The WTBA system has such novel methods of teaching taiji it is quite interesting. </p>
<p>Is there someone in the WTBA whose competitive fighting record we can use as an example of the effectiveness of the system? Like CC Chen or Zhang Qin lin?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Three Great Drills That Build Self-Defense by Steven Smith</title>
		<link>http://realtaiji.com/three-drills-build-self-defense/272#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, please call me Steven.

Forward and backward: a touchy bit. I will teach it with single push hands as a way to reflexively lift the ward-off arm for protection. In double-pushing, we learn to step around, laterally, as in the drill goats-butting (which we'll try on at the workshop). Also, change-step stepping works here, as it doesn't matter (like it does in single push) which foot is forward.

We don't want to learn (nor will I teach) to step back when being attacked.

When attacked, attack first! Two-man-saw drills cut self-defense right out of tai chi. Two-man-saws are good for: getting a sense of where your space ends, where your safety zone is. That's it!

Push hands, especially single, should eventually feel like lateral motion, not back and forth. By shifting laterally, we create forward-like motion in both attack (push) and defense (ward off). Oh - of course, we employ the little, bus-stop, waiting-in-line, power stance. There's barely a front or back foot, but there's always a left and right foot.

The sequence of grasp swallows tail is different than in pushing hands, and the hands and arms do different applications. Peng, Lu, An, Ji (with two neutral bits) in Pushing Hands; Double Peng, Lu, Ji, Sit Back, An in GST. In the form we're slamming and hammering, poking and cutting, slamming, squeezing, jamming, and twisting (in that order),  peculiar and specific pressure points. Methods change as form experience progresses.

In the pushing game, we develop principles of structure, sensitivity, and timing. When we fine tune it we begin to see holes (empty spots) in our own and another's structure, motion, and timing.

The sequence is a key to unlocking pushing hands; I think that's it's not taught because 1. it's difficult to learn and 2. it's tough to teach. I go right for the first advanced stage of pushing hands: hinge arm used in for Lu. Once you get this sequence, you're on your way in a legitimate internal martial and healing art.

We vary speeds, pressure, intensity, seriousness, and fun throughout the practice. Inevitably though, some consistency drives deep sensations and blossoms inner awareness.

It's a brilliant drill done the old-way! I hope you've seen Mike and Becky Pushing Hands - they're good at it. I hope you'll join us.

Da Lu is lots of fun too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, please call me Steven.</p>
<p>Forward and backward: a touchy bit. I will teach it with single push hands as a way to reflexively lift the ward-off arm for protection. In double-pushing, we learn to step around, laterally, as in the drill goats-butting (which we&#8217;ll try on at the workshop). Also, change-step stepping works here, as it doesn&#8217;t matter (like it does in single push) which foot is forward.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t want to learn (nor will I teach) to step back when being attacked.</p>
<p>When attacked, attack first! Two-man-saw drills cut self-defense right out of tai chi. Two-man-saws are good for: getting a sense of where your space ends, where your safety zone is. That&#8217;s it!</p>
<p>Push hands, especially single, should eventually feel like lateral motion, not back and forth. By shifting laterally, we create forward-like motion in both attack (push) and defense (ward off). Oh - of course, we employ the little, bus-stop, waiting-in-line, power stance. There&#8217;s barely a front or back foot, but there&#8217;s always a left and right foot.</p>
<p>The sequence of grasp swallows tail is different than in pushing hands, and the hands and arms do different applications. Peng, Lu, An, Ji (with two neutral bits) in Pushing Hands; Double Peng, Lu, Ji, Sit Back, An in GST. In the form we&#8217;re slamming and hammering, poking and cutting, slamming, squeezing, jamming, and twisting (in that order),  peculiar and specific pressure points. Methods change as form experience progresses.</p>
<p>In the pushing game, we develop principles of structure, sensitivity, and timing. When we fine tune it we begin to see holes (empty spots) in our own and another&#8217;s structure, motion, and timing.</p>
<p>The sequence is a key to unlocking pushing hands; I think that&#8217;s it&#8217;s not taught because 1. it&#8217;s difficult to learn and 2. it&#8217;s tough to teach. I go right for the first advanced stage of pushing hands: hinge arm used in for Lu. Once you get this sequence, you&#8217;re on your way in a legitimate internal martial and healing art.</p>
<p>We vary speeds, pressure, intensity, seriousness, and fun throughout the practice. Inevitably though, some consistency drives deep sensations and blossoms inner awareness.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a brilliant drill done the old-way! I hope you&#8217;ve seen Mike and Becky Pushing Hands - they&#8217;re good at it. I hope you&#8217;ll join us.</p>
<p>Da Lu is lots of fun too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Three Great Drills That Build Self-Defense by Josh Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Smith do you teach the single and double push hands with linear forward and backward stepping?

Also is your push hands (not da-lu) based upon the Grasp the Sparrows Tail sequence from the Yang form?</description>
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<p>Also is your push hands (not da-lu) based upon the Grasp the Sparrows Tail sequence from the Yang form?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Secret of Reflexive Self Defense by Josh Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A black clad ninja knocks his wife out and says "honey you know you shouldn't sneak up on me like that".</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Secret of Reflexive Self Defense by Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comment: it provokes thought.

&lt;em&gt;Reflex&lt;/em&gt;, I suppose, sounds on or off. But it's not so: even the knee pounding at the Doc's office has range of intensity. The harder the hammer pops the knee tendon, the more the leg jolts upward. Likewise, the hotter the stove, the quicker the reflexive pull-away.

Sensivity guides the use of the reflex: reflexes start the energy of action, while sensitivity offers direction and guidance to the trajectories of motion. The person who gets burned moves toward cold water, and, though not reflexive, the decision to follow the reflex is an extension that power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comment: it provokes thought.</p>
<p><em>Reflex</em>, I suppose, sounds on or off. But it&#8217;s not so: even the knee pounding at the Doc&#8217;s office has range of intensity. The harder the hammer pops the knee tendon, the more the leg jolts upward. Likewise, the hotter the stove, the quicker the reflexive pull-away.</p>
<p>Sensivity guides the use of the reflex: reflexes start the energy of action, while sensitivity offers direction and guidance to the trajectories of motion. The person who gets burned moves toward cold water, and, though not reflexive, the decision to follow the reflex is an extension that power.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Secret of Reflexive Self Defense by Jason Socci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Socci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m struggling with the analogy of the hot stove reflex.  I either have it or I don’t.  I think it might fail as an analogy for me in terms of self defense because of its lack of degrees.  In my mind, it simplifies a complex subject, namely: self defense.  How do we train degrees of reflexive responses?  If I’m pulled into a scuffle with a drunk guy, I don’t want to be popping him in the neck with my elbow.  God forbid I kill him, the courts may not be very merciful and I may have ruined quite a few lives, including my own.  Is this where sensitivity comes into play?  Being sensitive enough to reflexively respond appropriately?  Or do we either avoid all force until it’s do or die?  For me, the stove analogy seems to suggest this.  Sorry if I’m caught too much on the analogy and missing the forest for the trees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m struggling with the analogy of the hot stove reflex.  I either have it or I don’t.  I think it might fail as an analogy for me in terms of self defense because of its lack of degrees.  In my mind, it simplifies a complex subject, namely: self defense.  How do we train degrees of reflexive responses?  If I’m pulled into a scuffle with a drunk guy, I don’t want to be popping him in the neck with my elbow.  God forbid I kill him, the courts may not be very merciful and I may have ruined quite a few lives, including my own.  Is this where sensitivity comes into play?  Being sensitive enough to reflexively respond appropriately?  Or do we either avoid all force until it’s do or die?  For me, the stove analogy seems to suggest this.  Sorry if I’m caught too much on the analogy and missing the forest for the trees.</p>
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